The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) - Peter Jackson

Rocha · Post by **Rocha** » April 23rd, 2007, 8:35 pm

DREAMASTER wrote: Acredito se ele não fosse um grande fanatico pela obra do tolkien q a trilogia tinha sido uma coisa muito fraca.
Só por isso.

Então o Peter Jackson não deve gostar nem um bocadinho do King Kong, a avaliar pelo filme que fez.

De qualquer forma, acho o LOFTR engraçado mas... não é o fim do mundo em cuecas.

De qualquer forma, dou mérito ao Peter Jackson de ter conseguido tornar um livro chato ("Lord of the Rings") num filme interessante.

Já que o PJ gosta tanto de medival-fantastico (ao ponto de ser fanatico pelo LOFTR), bem que podia passar alguns livros do Raymond E. Feist para filme.

Edward Brock · Post by **Edward Brock** » April 23rd, 2007, 8:38 pm

Pessoalmente acho o talento muitíssimo mais importante do que o fanaticismo, e foi graças a isso que o Jackson se saiu bem. Se ele fosse tão fanático como dizes não teria tido, por exemplo, a coragem de fazer as alterações que fez.

Obviamente que se quem trabalha numa coisas destas fôr fã do material, tanto melhor já que ao menos tenta respeitar o material, mas entre os dois perfiro o talento respeitoso ao fanaticismo atabalhoado.

Lorde X · Post by **Lorde X** » April 24th, 2007, 2:10 pm

Rocha wrote:
DREAMASTER wrote: Então o Peter Jackson não deve gostar nem um bocadinho do King Kong, a avaliar pelo filme que fez.

Não concordo mesmo nada. Vi tanto o original pouco depois de ter visto a versão do PJ e acho que ele melhorou muito o filme dando-lhe uma densidade que o original, apesar de excelente, não tinha.

E é essa característica do PJ que foi essencial à trilogia Senhor dos Aneis e que garantiria um excelente Hobbit.

O Peter Jackson não se centraria nos efeitos especiais, esquecendo-se do equilíbrio do argumento e da densidade dos personagens. E se pensam que isso é fácil e que qualquer realizador consegue, lembrem-se do Eragon ...

E de épicos descerebrados de CGI já estou eu farto...

Wickedbug · Post by **Wickedbug** » April 24th, 2007, 3:39 pm

Pq o PJ é um fanatico pelas obras do Tolkien daí ter feito os Senhor dos Aneis como fez pq quiz q fosse o mais fiel possivel aos livros e ele proprio pode criar mais á vontade pq conhecia de tras pra frente a obra do tolkien.

Acredito se ele não fosse um grande fanatico pela obra do tolkien q a trilogia tinha sido uma coisa muito fraca.
Só por isso.

"Fanatismo" não chega. O Mark Steven Johnson gosta muito de Banda desenhada e os filmes dele (Daredevil e Ghost Rider) são uma porcaria. Quanto á fidelidade aos livros, não falta quem diga o contrário mas isso nao faz deles maus filmes, pelo contrário.

Mas entao e mais nenhum realizador pode gostar de Tolkien? Queres ver que o PJ agora é o unico especialista em Tolkien e em senhor dos aneis. É exacatamente este tipo de atitude "se nao é do PJ vai ser m*rda" que pode condenar o Hobbit á partida mais do que a escolha do realizador.

Rocha · Post by **Rocha** » April 24th, 2007, 3:52 pm

Até acho que só se tinha a ganhar com a escolha de outro realizador, que não o PJ, para dirigir o "The Hobbit".

Caso seja o PJ, o filme arrisca-se a ser "mais do mesmo", enquanto se a escolha cair sobre outro realizador, pode ser que traga algo de novo.

Pessoalmente, acho o livro "The Hobbit", melhor conseguido que o "Lord of the Rings"... e gostava de o ver transposto para o cinema por alguem que não tivesse a mesma visão do ambiente Tolkiano que o PJ.

Quanto ao Eragon, que o Lorde X fala, o coitado do realizador, para além de um orçamento consideravelmente mais diminuto que o PJ, também não tinha grande materia prima com que brilhar e nisso, o filme é fiel ao livro... são ambos uma bela merda!

Tenho que admitir que me custou acabar de ler o Eragon, tamanho era o chorrilho de clichés e lugares comuns.

Wickedbug · Post by **Wickedbug** » April 24th, 2007, 4:39 pm

Já para nao falar q o realizador do Eragon era um estreante (antigo tecnico de efeitos especiais da ILM), coisa q o PJ ja nao era quando pegou no LotR

Edward Brock · Post by **Edward Brock** » May 10th, 2007, 12:35 am

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32588

Is It Possible?? A Director Other Than Raimi For THE HOBBIT??

Merrick here...

This is from an untried source, so I suppose this should be taken with a grain of salt.

But, it’s pretty interesting none the less…and a potentiality I’d never truly considered. Personally, I think this notion makes a surprising amount of sense - although nothing makes as much sense as…say…just working things out with Peter Jackson and getting him the fuck back onto the project! (I believe Jackson is now synonymous with LORD OF THE RINGS/HOBBIT & his absence will make any project feel pale, imitative, or exploitative).

Anyway, Checkyr wrote in, explaining who he is and why he would have access to this knowledge. He wanted to share this tidbit with readers. We all know that Sam Raimi is being courted to direct THE HOBBIT. As far as I’m concerned, this is a troubling choice give the sloppy and disingenuous SPIDER-MAN 3 – and Raimi’s increasing lack of style. Checkyr says that, concurrent with Raimi’s offer…MASTER AND COMMANDER director Peter Weir is also being approached.

Which…is pretty damn cool. MASTER AND COMMANDER is a very fine film with an awesome look and sense of character. I wholeheartedly agree with those who call it “the best STAR TREK film” in many years. If you don’t get that analogy, think about it before yelling at me in Talkbacks.

If anyone knows anything more about this, DROP ME A LINE & I’ll update the world!

Again, grain of salt…but compelling enough…

Hmm...

Shivers · Post by **Shivers** » October 6th, 2007, 2:37 pm

Peter Jackson and New Line to Kiss and Make Up?

After months of duking it out with New Line in the courts (and in public), it appears as if a path may have finally been cleared for Peter Jackson to return to Middle-earth.

We aren't going to get heavily into the details here -- we are only humble gossipmongers without law degrees, after all, and the court case between Jackson and New Line involves armies of attorneys and roughly $300 gazillion -- but this week, a judge rapped the studio on the knuckles for failing to provide key documents. New Line now must pay a $125,000 sanction, and has until Tuesday to turn over internal audits relating to disputed profits from the Lord of the Rings movies.

It sounds like a perfectly boring detail from a big ol' lawsuit, but it's potentially meaningful for Lord of the Rings fans, because the judge's decision could very well open up negotiations for a settlement between Jackson and New Line...and, in the process, set wheels in motion for The Hobbit. As Entertainment Weekly puts it:

At this writing, no agreements have been announced and details of the negotiations are sketchy (neither New Line nor Jackson's camp would comment to EW on any aspect of this story), but sources close to the talks tell us that they're detecting a lot less frost in the air, and that a deal may be reached that could help usher J.R.R. Tolkien's maiden Middle-earth masterpiece to screens before the end of the decade.

''There has been a détente,'' says one insider. "There is now the beginning of a discourse between Peter Jackson and New Line that's running parallel to the litigation proceedings.''

There's a lot more to the story, obviously -- but luckily for you, to read a fairly comprehensive, five-page rundown of the whole thing, all you've got to do is click on the link below. Get clickin'!

Shivers · Post by **Shivers** » December 18th, 2007, 7:04 pm

Finalmente...

Peter Jackson to Produce The Hobbit and Sequel!
Source: New Line Cinema, MGM
December 18, 2007

Academy Award-winning filmmaker Peter Jackson; Harry Sloan, Chairman and CEO, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. (MGM); Bob Shaye and Michael Lynne, Co-Chairmen and Co-CEOs of New Line Cinema have jointly announced today that they have entered into the following series of agreements:

* MGM and New Line will co-finance and co-distribute two films, The Hobbit and a sequel to The Hobbit. New Line will distribute in North America and MGM will distribute internationally.

* Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh will serve as Executive Producers of two films based on The Hobbit. New Line will manage the production of the films, which will be shot simultaneously.

* Peter Jackson and New Line have settled all litigation relating to the "Lord of the Rings" (LOTR) Trilogy.

Said Peter Jackson, "I'm very pleased that we've been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line. 'The Lord of the Rings' is a legacy we proudly share with Bob and Michael, and together, we share that legacy with millions of loyal fans all over the world. We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth. I also want to thank Harry Sloan and our new friends at MGM for helping us find the common ground necessary to continue that journey."

"Peter Jackson has proven himself as the filmmaker who can bring the extraordinary imagination of Tolkien to life and we full heartedly agree with the fans worldwide who know he should be making 'The Hobbit,'" said Sloan, MGM's Chairman and CEO. "Now that we are all in agreement on 'The Hobbit,' we can focus on assembling the production team that will capture this phenomenal tale on film."

Bob Shaye, New Line Co-Chairman and Co-CEO comments, "We are very pleased we have been able to resolve our differences, and that Peter and Fran will be actively and creatively involved with 'The Hobbit' movies. We know they will bring the same passion, care and talent to these films that they so ably accomplished with 'The Lord of the Rings' Trilogy."

"Peter is a visionary filmmaker, and he broke new ground with 'The Lord of the Rings,'" notes Michael Lynne, New Line Co-Chairman and Co-CEO. "We're delighted he's back for 'The Hobbit' films and that the Tolkien saga will continue with his imprint. We greatly appreciate the efforts of Harry Sloan, who has been instrumental in helping us reach our new accord."

The two "Hobbit" films – The Hobbit and its sequel – are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, with pre-production beginning as soon as possible. Principal photography is tentatively set for a 2009 start, with the intention of The Hobbit release slated for 2010 and its sequel the following year, in 2011.

The Oscar-winning, critically-acclaimed LOTR Trilogy grossed nearly $3 billion worldwide at the box-office. In 2003, "Return of the King" swept the Academy Awards, winning all of the eleven categories in which it was nominated, including Best Picture – the first ever Best Picture win for a fantasy film. The Trilogy's production was also unprecedented at the time.

For more information about "The Hobbit" films, visit TheHobbitBlog.com.

http://www.thehobbitblog.com/

bisard · Post by **bisard** » December 18th, 2007, 7:06 pm

É uma boa noticia de facto, mas seria ainda melhor se ele realizasse também!

Tojal City · Post by **Tojal City** » December 18th, 2007, 8:48 pm

Só vejo dois ou três realizadores para isto, ou pelo menos gostava que fosse um deles e são todos mexicanos

Guillermo del Toro ou Alfonso Cuarón.

Mas o pior de tudo é o facto de a MGM distribuir o filme internacionalmente, isto significa mau tratamento na edição DVD ou lá que formato vingar na altura.

Joe-Fagundes · Post by **Joe-Fagundes** » December 18th, 2007, 11:39 pm

Yes... you read that right, folks! And no, I'm not kidding. MGM sent over this official press release just this morning:

ACADEMY AWARD WINNER PETER JACKSON AND NEW LINE CINEMA JOIN WITH MGM TO PRODUCE “THE HOBBIT,” EAGERLY-ANTICIPATED FANTASY ADVENTURE EPIC

NEW LINE AND MGM TO CO-PRODUCE AND SHARE WORLDWIDE DISTRIBUTION RIGHTS

PETER JACKSON AND FRAN WALSH TO EXECUTIVE PRODUCE TWO FILMS BASED ON “THE HOBBIT”

Los Angeles, CA (Tuesday, December 18, 2007) Academy Award®-winning filmmaker Peter Jackson; Harry Sloan, Chairman and CEO, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios Inc. (MGM); Bob Shaye and Michael Lynne, Co-Chairmen and Co-CEOs of New Line Cinema have jointly announced today that they have entered into the following series of agreements:

* MGM and New Line will co-finance and co-distribute two films, “The Hobbit” and a sequel to “The Hobbit.” New Line will distribute in North America and MGM will distribute internationally.

* Peter Jackson and Fran Walsh will serve as Executive Producers of two films based on “The Hobbit.” New Line will manage the production of the films, which will be shot simultaneously.

* Peter Jackson and New Line have settled all litigation relating to the “Lord of the Rings” (LOTR) Trilogy.

Said Peter Jackson, “I’m very pleased that we’ve been able to put our differences behind us, so that we may begin a new chapter with our old friends at New Line. ‘The Lord of the Rings’ is a legacy we proudly share with Bob and Michael, and together, we share that legacy with millions of loyal fans all over the world. We are delighted to continue our journey through Middle Earth. I also want to thank Harry Sloan and our new friends at MGM for helping us find the common ground necessary to continue that journey.”

“Peter Jackson has proven himself as the filmmaker who can bring the extraordinary imagination of Tolkien to life and we full heartedly agree with the fans worldwide who know he should be making ‘The Hobbit,’” said Sloan, MGM’s Chairman and CEO. "Now that we are all in agreement on 'The Hobbit,' we can focus on assembling the production team that will capture this phenomenal tale on film."

Bob Shaye, New Line Co-Chairman and Co-CEO comments, “We are very pleased we have been able to resolve our differences, and that Peter and Fran will be actively and creatively involved with ‘The Hobbit’ movies. We know they will bring the same passion, care and talent to these films that they so ably accomplished with ‘The Lord of the Rings’ Trilogy.”

“Peter is a visionary filmmaker, and he broke new ground with ‘The Lord of the Rings,’” notes Michael Lynne, New Line Co-Chairman and Co-CEO. “We’re delighted he’s back for ‘The Hobbit’ films and that the Tolkien saga will continue with his imprint. We greatly appreciate the efforts of Harry Sloan, who has been instrumental in helping us reach our new accord.”

The two “Hobbit” films – “The Hobbit” and its sequel – are scheduled to be shot simultaneously, with pre-production beginning as soon as possible. Principal photography is tentatively set for a 2009 start, with the intention of “The Hobbit” release slated for 2010 and its sequel the following year, in 2011.

The Oscar®-winning, critically-acclaimed LOTR Trilogy grossed nearly $3 billion worldwide at the box-office. In 2003, “Return of the King” swept the Academy Awards®, winning all of the eleven categories in which it was nominated, including Best Picture – the first ever Best Picture win for a fantasy film. The Trilogy’s production was also unprecedented at the time.

For more information about “The Hobbit” films, please visit www.TheHobbitBlog.com.

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How do you like them apples, folks? How hot is that? Very, that's how. Currently Jackson is just set to produce, but let's hope he decides to direct too, because the films just wouldn't be the same without him.

I can't think of a better way to start the day than with news like that. Enjoy!

siroco · Post by **siroco** » December 19th, 2007, 9:41 am

O Hobbit e uma sequela ?!?

A única sequela que conheço do Hobbit é o LOTR, e mesmo assim é um bocado redutor chamar-lhe sequela...

RMI · Post by **RMI** » December 19th, 2007, 10:10 am

siroco wrote:O Hobbit e uma sequela ?!?

A única sequela que conheço do Hobbit é o LOTR, e mesmo assim é um bocado redutor chamar-lhe sequela...

Provavelmente o que isso significa é o Hobbit dividido por 2 filmes...

dredguy · Post by **dredguy** » December 19th, 2007, 11:18 am

Claro, é um forma de fazer render o peixe. Sem dúvida será o Hobbit partido em dois. Mas que bela notícia!