The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey (2012) - Peter Jackson

Joe-Fagundes · Post by **Joe-Fagundes** » December 19th, 2007, 11:22 am

Pode ser dividido em dois ou podem pegar no extenso material que existe e fazer um segundo filme, centrado na juventude e idade adulta do Aragorn, para quem não saiba, ele nas Duas Torres tem 87 anos, pode-se falar atmbém no regresso de Sauron, o Conselho Branco, etc, etc.

siroco · Post by **siroco** » December 19th, 2007, 11:35 am

Pois, material bom para encher chouriços, o Dreadguy já disse tudo, fazer render o peixe...

RMI · Post by **RMI** » December 19th, 2007, 1:31 pm

E esperemos que quando for editado em DVD também seja em versão XPTO com estatuetas como com os LOTR.

Tojal City · Post by **Tojal City** » December 19th, 2007, 4:11 pm

RMI, não leste a parte onde falo do filme ser distribuido pela MGM internacionalmente, uma editora que agora pertence a Sony, mas ainda tem autonomia. Sempre teve um desrespeito imenso pelo nosso mercado e duvido que tenha melhorado.

RMI · Post by **RMI** » December 19th, 2007, 5:12 pm

Tojal City wrote:RMI, não leste a parte onde falo do filme ser distribuido pela MGM internacionalmente, uma editora que agora pertence a Sony, mas ainda tem autonomia. Sempre teve um desrespeito imenso pelo nosso mercado e duvido que tenha melhorado.

Eu li, mas pode ser que com este franchise de respeito a coisa corra melhor. "A esperança é a última a morrer" e tal...

Joe-Fagundes · Post by **Joe-Fagundes** » December 19th, 2007, 7:12 pm

1º Filme - Acontecimentos de The Hobbit
2º Filme - Espaço de 80 anos entre o Hobbit e o LOTR

Jackson 'too busy' to direct Hobbit films
BUSY BEE: Peter Jackson and his partner Fran Walsh will executive produce two Hobbit films, but Jackson is too busy to direct them, a New Line spokesman said.

The makers of the smash hit Lord of the Rings films have settled a legal dispute and agreed to make two movies based on JRR Tolkien's The Hobbit, but most likely without Peter Jackson directing.
Peter Jackson to make two Hobbit films ...

Oscar winner Jackson, however, has signed on as executive producer along with his wife and producing partner, Fran Walsh, who also was instrumental in making the three Lord of the Rings films that earned
$US3 billion at global box offices.

In recent months, loyal Rings and Tolkien fans loudly proclaimed on internet sites that they would not support a Hobbit movie without Jackson's involvement, and today’s announcement brought them some
welcome relief.

"Fist in the Air! YEEEEESSSSS!!! ... "TRUST PETER!!! THE MASTER, THE COMMANDER, THE WIZARD!," one person posted at fan site, www.theonering.net.

New Line co-chairman Bob Shaye said no decision has been made about who will direct The Hobbit movies, but Jackson, Walsh and the studios share approval on major creative elements and will start considering writers and directors in January.

MGM Chairman Harry Sloan, who was credited by all parties for bringing about the deal, said Jackson found it "impossible" to direct the films and meet proposed release dates in 2010 and 2011 due to other projects in the works.

"He can't get it scheduled and he doesn't want the fans to have to wait for the next two movies," Sloan said. He said the studios might postpone the films if Jackson changed his mind.

Ken Kamins, manager for Jackson and Walsh, said it was "highly unlikely" Jackson would write or direct, but he would insure their quality by keeping creative control.

Kamins pointed out that George Lucas had ceded director's duties to others for The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi without damaging the Star Wars franchise.

Jackson was unavailable for comment.

JACKSON'S VISION

Fantasy novel The Hobbit tells of a world inhabited by wizards, dwarves, elves and little people called hobbits, including the central character, Bilbo Baggins. The Hobbit preceded Tolkien's Lord of the Rings trilogy.

The Ring films were released from 2001 through 2003.

Jackson and Walsh envision the first film covering the events of The Hobbit and the second bridging the 80-year gap between that novel and the first book of the trilogy.

Much of the plot for the second film would be gleaned from footnotes in The Hobbit that address that gap, Kamins said.

It was that vision that led MGM, which holds film rights to the book, to insist Jackson and Walsh make the movies.

"Once (they) played out their vision for The Hobbit as two movies ... MGM just took the position that we wanted to deal with Peter and it was not an option to do it with anybody else," Sloan said.

He added the studios "would welcome as much of the original (Rings) cast as possible," adding that "some of them have even said they are interested".

For years, the making of a Hobbit movie had been delayed while Jackson and New Line wrangled over profits from the Rings films. The director had sued New Line claiming it owed him money. Jackson and New Line have now settled that suit.

Joe-Fagundes · Post by **Joe-Fagundes** » December 19th, 2007, 7:13 pm

Events that could be included in such a bridge movie:

The White Council meets to discuss The Necromancer (aka Sauron)
The White Council (including Saruman and Gandalf) attack The Necromancer’s stronghold at Dol Guldur. This is to prevent Sauron from searching the river for the Ring. Sauron abandons Dol Guldur and takes up residence in Mordor.
Gollum leaves the mountain, searching for the “thief” Baggins.
Sauron declared himself openly, starting to gather power to Mordor.
Aragorn searches the wilds for Gollum.
Aragorn’s engagement to Arwen.
Frodo’s birth.
These are but a few things mentioned in Appendix B of Return of the King. These can be added to and expanded to make the story flow.

alentejano_alternativo · December 21st, 2007, 3:01 am

Então é o filme do Hobbit e um outro filme de ligação entre o Hobbit e o Lord of the Rings.
Parece-me bem, assim quem preferir fica-se apenas pelo Hobbit.

Eu acho interessante fazer essa ligação, e pela amostra aqui deixada pelo Joe-Fagundes ainda mais interessado estou.
Só tenho pena que o Peter Jackson não esteja mais envolvido no filme, parece-me que ser produtor executivo é pouco para quem que fez o Lord of the Rings, mas espero para ver.

Shivers · Post by **Shivers** » January 15th, 2008, 10:39 am

Elijah Wood: Once a Frodo, Always a Frodo
Says he'd "absolutely love to" make an appearance in second Hobbit film.

Count Elijah Wood as one of the millions excited about the news of Peter Jackson's involvement in those planned Hobbit films -- and another member of the Lord of the Rings cast who's game for a return to Middle-earth.

Wood tells MTV Movies that as far as he knows, "the two films that they're doing, one will be 'The Hobbit' and another will take place between the 60 years that happened between 'The Hobbit' and 'Lord of the Rings'" -- meaning plenty of potential for a Frodo appearance or two. Saying he "would absolutely love to" play Frodo again, Wood goes on to speculate about that second film:

"Nothing was really written with Frodo involved in it. That was sort of an ancillary tale outside of 'Lord of the Rings.' I can't imagine that they [Jackson, Fran Walsh and Philippa Boyens] would write great reams of information regarding my character. But if [Frodo] should show up, it would actually be the perfect way to revisit because it could be small enough that I could go back and have a nice sort of reunion with the memories that I have of the experience."

Even if there's no room for Frodo, however, Wood is still excited about Jackson's return to the fold. Calling the agreement between the director and New Line "a great triumph," he echoes the sentiments of many Rings fans with his closing words: "I think people want it to exist in the same world. So at least now we are assured that it will be done through that same lens, which is great. It's exciting."

Source: MTV Movies

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1191444 ... s/1702762/

Shivers · Post by **Shivers** » January 28th, 2008, 8:38 am

Guillermo Del Toro poderá ser o realizador dos dois filmes de The Hobbit:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... 87024a2b8e

Tojal City · Post by **Tojal City** » January 28th, 2008, 9:44 am

Shivers wrote:Guillermo Del Toro poderá ser o realizador dos dois filmes de The Hobbit:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/con ... 87024a2b8e

Obviamente que este é o realizador que reune o maior consenso entre todos os fãs. E entre este e o Harry Potter, esperemos que ele obte correctamente.

alquimista · Post by **alquimista** » January 28th, 2008, 10:09 am

Gostei da ideia para o segundo filme.
Se for bem executada poderá abrir caminho para muitas mais adaptações de histórias sobre a Middle Earth. E material é que não falta para adaptar e desenvolver.
Pode ser que um destes dias ainda possa vir a ver muita coisa dos "Contos Inacabados" no cinema também.

vinsanity · Post by **vinsanity** » January 30th, 2008, 6:34 pm

Parece que é mesmo oficial o guillermo del toro ser o realizador do hobbit segundo este video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIvVc0BBEFQ (a partir do dos 40 segundos)

maldoror_x · Post by **maldoror_x** » January 31st, 2008, 4:15 pm

"esteticamente" pelo menos o guillermo del toro tem a fisionomia do peter jackson aquando a relaização da triologia do senhor doas aneis.... LOL

(ok, piada foleira.......)

Mas recebo de bom grado a entrega do hobbit ao guillermo, caso se confirme

DREAMASTER · Post by **DREAMASTER** » February 6th, 2008, 8:54 pm

O Perter Jackson tá a fazer-se caro pra se o filmes forem não correrem muito bem nas bilhiteiras, ele ficar a salvo pq não os realizou e ficar sempre relembrado pelas obras primas do LOTR.

Apenas a minha teoria da conspiração