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Wickedbug wrote:
Futuro pós apocaliptico, christian Bale, robots, i'm there!
Eh eh mai nada! :-)))

Como um filme pertencente ao universo Terminator , sinceramente nao me chama a atencao , mas como filme de accao/sci-fi ganhou algum interesse.
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Do que vi gostei e muito. yes-)
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Gostei do trailer mas ha ali maquinas parecem ter sido tiradas dos transformers :-?
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Eu só vi acção, atrás de acção. Afinal qual é a história?
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Tojal City wrote:Eu só vi acção, atrás de acção. Afinal qual é a história?
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:lol:

Mas isso tb tinha o T3 ;)
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Eu só vi acção, atrás de acção. Afinal qual é a história?
Antes isso do que aquela categoria de trailers que basicamente resume o filme e a história em minuto e meio.
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Saiu uma gravacao com o Bale a passar-se completamente no set com o director de fotografia .
Quem quiser ouvir : http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_audio/020209_ ... anbale.mp3
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Neste artigo da revista Wired pode-se ver várias imagens do filme e alguma arte conceptual.
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New types of killer robots and a science-inspired conception of post-apocalyptic Earth are helping McG turn Terminator Salvation into an eye-scorching sci-fi flick. The director knows it will take considerable polish to restore the franchise's sheen in the wake of Arnold Schwarzenegger's much-maligned 2003 swan song, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. And he cheerfully acknowledges that some observers initially questioned the wisdom of reviving the Terminator franchise with him at the helm.

"Nobody heard 'Terminator 4' and said, 'Oh that's a great idea -- I know, let's get McG to do it!" said McG when he rolled clips from his upcoming movie in Los Angeles earlier this month. "This asshole who did Charlie's Angels, and what kind of cock calls himself McG?'"
With one eye on the screen and the other on reactions from fans and journalists gathered at the Directors Guild of American screening room, the former music video director showed off the post-Judgment Day world he's crafting for Terminator Salvation. The scenes showed new Terminator models and bleak vistas from a nuke-ravaged Earth destroyed by sentient computer network Skynet. Work-in–progress action sequences looked impressive enough to suggest that McG and his collaborators might just restore the franchise to its former glory.

The following exclusive concept art and images reveal McG's vision for Terminator Salvation as the director talks about putting the pieces together in time for the movie's May 22 release.
Getting the Robots Right: "The first film shows Schwarzenegger's T-800 coming from 2029 back in time," McG said. "Salvation takes place in 2018, so you see the R&D that went into the T-800. It's like the polio vaccine: You've got to go through a lot of lab rats to get to vaccine. In this film, humans are the lab rats. Skynet is testing on us to figure out how to make a photorealistic, leaner, smaller, more capable machine -- the T-800."

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Skynet's arsenal includes the "Hydrabot," designed to seek and destroy humans trying to swim to safety.

A.I. Meets Skynet: "Artificial intelligence was so foreign during the glory days of '70s and '80s science fiction -– Blade Runner, Alien, Terminator," Mc G said. "In this day and age, it's here! You spell a word wrong on your BlackBerry, it spells it right for you. You got a bad knee, they put a titanium one in there. If you're depressed, we're not going to talk about your mom and dad, we're going to manipulate your serotonin re-uptake inhibitor and you're going to feel better in two weeks. I've always loved stories about 'That which makes us great will be our undoing.'"

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Technology ramps up in Terminator Salvation with remote-controlled motorcycles dispatched by Skynet to destroy the humans.

Post-Apocalyptic Cinematography: "We talked to the people who monitored Chernobyl about what the world would sound and look and taste and feel like after the bombs have gone off," said McG. "Then we got a dead Kodak stock. We baked it in the sun a little bit too long to damage the film, and then we shot on uncorrected Panavision lenses that flare more easily and aren't quite as sharp as Primo lenses but have an interesting patina. Most importantly we added three times as much silver in the processing than one traditionally would to a color stock. Add it all up and you get this otherworldly, desolate feeling."

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McG consulted with Caltech scientists to gather information on what a post-Judgment Day planet might look like.

Visual Effects: "It's critical to push the visual effects forward in this film," said McG. "In Terminator 2, when Robert Patrick's head came apart, that's pushing it forward. So we hired Charlie Gibson who's won two Academy Awards and did Gore Verbinski's last four or five movies. He's up there at [Industrial Light & Magic] cooking up a few things that I can say in fairness will go beyond viewers' expectation."

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Calming James Cameron's Skepticism: "I didn't want to feel like the guy who gave birth to the Terminator is against what we're doing, so I go to see James Cameron to kiss the ring and tell him what I was trying to do," McG said. "He's cordial but says, 'I'm not going to endorse your movie. I reserve the right to hate it. But I wish you well, and if you're going to make a Terminator I'd prefer you make a good one to a bad one.'"

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The devastation wreaked by Skynet in 2028 includes Hollywood's landmark Capital Records building, which lay in ruins.

The Quest for Credibility: "To get some credibility back into the Terminator mythology, we had to show the fans we really mean business by getting a great John Connor," McG said. "To me the choice was very simple: Christian Bale."

Bale Just Says No: "I met Bale at a pub in England while he was shooting Dark Knight," McG said. "He said, "I'm not interested in action, I'm not interested in pyrotechnics, I'm interested in story. If you can get the script to a place where actors on stage could just read it, naked, and it would be compelling for two hours because the characters change and evolve, then we'd have something to talk about." We had a respectful conversation, I gave him Cormac McCarthy's The Road, Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? to read but his answer was: "Until it's on the page, I'm not doing it."

The Jonathan Nolan Rewrite: "I went to Jonah Nolan, who co-wrote The Dark Knight," said McG, "and A) has a good dynamic with Christian, and B) he's a very intelligent guy who puts story and character at the forefront. So after Jonah worked on the script, we got Christian on board."

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Sam Worthington, right, plays the mysterious man who may -- or may not -- help Christian Bale's John Connor destroy Skynet.

Co-star Sam Worthington: "Alan Horn, the guy who runs Warner Bros., likes to kid, 'If you want a tough guy, you've got to hire somebody from Australia,'" McG said. "Sam's a pretty powerful screen presence. He can hold his own with Bale in a two-shot."

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Connor's Story: "John Connor doesn't come into the picture saying, 'Follow me and everything's going to be cool,'" said McG. "He's just one of many soldiers when we meet him. It's like [Spider-Man] where you're Peter Parker: 'Hey I'm just a lowly high school photographer,' and he learns with great power comes great responsibility. Or the hacker [in The Matrix]: 'They call me Neo, who cares?' 'quot;No man, you're the one, you're going to lead us!' Of course Luke Skywalker, on and on, all those Joseph Campbell archetypes. So this is the story of how John Connor becomes leader of the resistance. He has to earn it."

Machine Music: "I wanted the sound of the resistance to be very delicate, reminiscent of Gustavo Santaolalla's analog guitar, so I thought of putting Gustavo together with Thom Yorke of Radiohead for the machine sound," said McG. "But their schedules were too tough, so then Danny Elfman articulated his sonic vision for the picture. He's a huge Terminator fan. I wish I could show you his house. Elfman lives in a haunted house that has strange prosthetic limbs from the turn of the century hanging on the wall."

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Flesh-and-Blood Robots: "A lot of people make CG movies where actors are emoting to poles with tennis balls on top of them," said McG. "That's the last thing I wanted to do. I don't like dealing with cartoons, so to speak. I wanted real robots for the actors to interface with so you could get that grittiness and realism. There's an archetype shape to the T-800. We needed body types to suggest the robot that would combat John Connor, and Roland Kickinger is a good body type. His shoulders are huge, his waist is narrow. The [Industrial Light & Magic] guys used their calipers to measure shoulder spatial differences and said he'd make a good body double. Roland as an individual is not in the movie."

Stop Them Before They Multiply: "Imagine it's 1944 and we sneak into Hitler's Germany and find all these V-2 rockets with nuclear tips they're not supposed to have," said McG. "We'd go back to the powers that be and explain, 'This is a huge problem; it's going to change everything.' That's what happens with Connor –-he's got to raise the curtain and defeat Skynet because the launch of the T-800 means curtains for everyone."

The Third Act: "Is Skynet smart enough to use the best parts of ourselves against ourselves? Can we trust the machine?" Mc G asked. "Therein lies the rub and that's what act three is all about. The ending of this film is elliptical. It's going to make a lot of people mad and you'll see lot of people scratching their heads. It's not disposable, where you forget about it before you even get to the parking lot. It's going to make you think."
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Por acaso vi recentemente We Are Marshals do McG e fique agradavelmente surpreendido, para quem a única opinião vinha do Charlie Angels claro. Até pode ser que o Terminator Salvation me surpreenda igualmente.
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Tojal City wrote:Por acaso vi recentemente We Are Marshals do McG e fique agradavelmente surpreendido
We Are! MARSHAL!

É bom filme, mas dentro das técnicas industriais hollywodescas. Assim espero este "Terminator Salvation" que, mais do que o T3 e tanto como o T2, tinha potencial para se tornar num grande filme acção/sci-fi.
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Gollum wrote:
Tojal City wrote:Por acaso vi recentemente We Are Marshals do McG e fique agradavelmente surpreendido
We Are! MARSHAL!

É bom filme, mas dentro das técnicas industriais hollywodescas. Assim espero este "Terminator Salvation" que, mais do que o T3 e tanto como o T2, tinha potencial para se tornar num grande filme acção/sci-fi.
Faço minhas as palavras do Gollum, já notei que estão a esforçar-se para levar este projecto a bom porto, pelo que li das entrevistas e pela produção investida. Estão a usar material passado, não só para fornecer mais do mesmo mas também para fazer algo melhor, diferente e original, mantendo a premissa dos primeiros filmes.

Faço votos de que resulte pois gosto do que percebi desta abordagem.
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Tojal City wrote:Por acaso vi recentemente We Are Marshals do McG e fique agradavelmente surpreendido, para quem a única opinião vinha do Charlie Angels claro. Até pode ser que o Terminator Salvation me surpreenda igualmente.
Em abono da verdade, não estou a ver como é que "Charlie´s Angels" podia ser algo mais do que aquilo que foi.

Estou bastante impressionado com o que tenho andado a ler sobre este novo capítulo da saga "Terminator", porque parece que se estão a esforçar realmente com a história. E quanto ao McG, pelas entrevistas que tenho lido, o homem não é parvo nenhum e parece perceber bem o universo e as suas regras.
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:shock: :shock: :shock:

O Bale passou-se durante as filmagens deste T4:

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Ok as manias de estrelado já subiram a cabeça do Bale. Falar assim com o Director de Fotografia, que é praticamente o braço direito do realizador. E onde estava o McG? É verdade que não se percebe o verdadeiro contexto de tudo o que foi dito aqui, mas caiar em cima do DP só porque quer fazer o seu trabalho. Enfim, o McG deve ser muito cordeirinho.
O Bale que nunca trabalhe com o Ridley Scott, pois seria um cenário para um documentário próprio.

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